Episode: Emily McGowin on Christmas
In this episode, co-hosts Mickey and Bishop Todd help us transition from Advent to Christmas with the Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin. Sometimes we struggle to see past Christmas’ cultural trappings to its timeless beauty, but Emily takes us beyond consumption to explore the “great exchange” of the incarnation. This episode caps off another year of enriching conversations with C4SO ministry leaders, church planters, authors, musicians, spiritual directors and friends. See you in 2024!
Dr. Emily McGowin teaches theology at Wheaton College. She is also a priest and Canon Theologian in C4SO. Her latest book is Christmas: The Season of Life and Light (Fullness of Time series) from InterVarsity Press.

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